01 What makes it unique
Forest River publishes a 17,999-pound GVWR for the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL against a 14,844-pound unloaded weight, and the 3,155 pounds of cargo carrying capacity that leaves is the second largest on the 3-plan fifth wheel roster. Dry weight plus CCC equals the published GVWR exactly, so the three figures are internally consistent rather than rounded against each other. The dry pin weight is 2,425 pounds before anything is loaded.
The 393RL measures 42' 4" long, 13' 6" tall and 101" wide, and carries a 75 / 78 / 39-gallon fresh, grey and black tank set with a 19' & 15' awning. Height is the number to check first on a trailer this size — measure garage doors, carports and low branches against the published 13' 6" before the first trip. Against its neighbours on the roster, the longer 394RKL runs 270 pounds heavier dry.
Equipment for this plan is published as 2 named packages on its factory floorplan record — the “River Package (mandatory)” and the “Ranch Package (mandatory)”, listing 34 items and 27 items respectively. The first package opens with 6 Point Hydraulic Leveling System, 8000 LB Axles, 2-Tone Aluminum Wheels and H Rated Tires w/J Rated Spare. Package inclusion on any given unit is not asserted here and Forest River publishes no MSRP for this tier, so confirm delivered equipment and current pricing with a dealer.
02 Full specifications
Dimensions
- Exterior length
- 42' 4"
- Exterior height
- 13' 6"
- Exterior width
- 101"
Weights
- Dry / unit base weight (UVW)
- 14,844 lbs
- GVWR (max loaded)
- 17,999 lbs
- Net cargo / payload (CCC)
- 3,155 lbs
- Dry pin weight
- 2,425 lbs
Capacities
- Fresh water
- 75 gal
- Grey water
- 78 gal
- Black water
- 39 gal
- Awning
- 19' & 15'
Running gear
- Hitch type
- Fifth wheel (pin box)
- Axles
- Not published by source*
- Axle rating
- Not published by source*
- Wheels & tires
- Not published by source*
Systems — factory packages, as published
- Factory package 1
- River Package (mandatory) — 34 published items
- Factory package 2
- Ranch Package (mandatory) — 27 published items
Layout
- Sleeps
- Not published by source*
- Slides
- Not published by source*
- Entries
- Not published by source*
Verified specs, drawn to scale
Original graphics built from this floorplan’s own verified figures.
Loaded weight budget
Size, drawn to scale
Holding tanks
These graphics are generated from the same verified record that builds the table above, and are published under this site’s own licence — nothing here is traced from, or derived from, a manufacturer drawing or photo. Where a figure is not published for this plan, the graphic that would need it is omitted rather than estimated. The full record is in the published dataset.
What it takes to tow this
Built from this floorplan’s verified weights. We publish the trailer side only.
We do not publish tow ratings for specific trucks. A single model can vary by thousands of pounds depending on engine, axle ratio, cab, drivetrain and package — the only authoritative figure is the one on your own door jamb. Loaded pin percentages are industry convention for fifth wheels (15–25% of loaded weight), not a measurement of this unit. Hitch classes are not used here as a rating: SAE J684 covers trailers to 10,000 lb GVWR and does not define Class V, and capacity boundaries differ between manufacturers — read the rating stamped on your hitch.
03 The Puma Grand Mesa roster
Puma Grand Mesa is the fifth wheel tier of Palomino’s Puma family — 3 floorplans filed by the factory under “Fifth Wheels”, sold under the parent Puma line and rostered on the Puma hub’s Puma Grand Mesa section. Per this site’s family policy a factory sub-roster lives under its parent hub rather than taking a hub of its own.
04 What owners & reviewers report
The published figures tie out exactly
Dry 14,844 plus CCC 3,155 equals the published GVWR of 17,999 — no rounding gap.
A 2,425-pound dry pin weight
Pin weight lands on the truck bed, not a hitch ball — check the truck's payload rating, not just its tow rating, and confirm the bed and hitch are rated for it loaded.
13' 6" of height
Measure garage doors, carports, awnings and low branches against this figure before the first trip.
Sleeps, slides and axles are not published
Forest River publishes no sleeping capacity, slide count, entry count, axle count or rating, or tire size for this tier — confirm the layout and running gear on the unit itself.
Weigh the loaded trailer
Dry weight is a factory estimate for a base unit; options, water and cargo all add to it. Weigh loaded and confirm against your tow vehicle's ratings and the unit's weight sticker before purchase.
05 How it compares
270 pounds heavier dry, 3,461 lbs of CCC.
Forest River’s own fifth-wheel roster in the class above.
06 Loading it for a trip
This floorplan carries its water comfortably. A full 75-gallon fresh tank is roughly 20% of the 3,155-pound cargo capacity, leaving the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL with a usable gear budget even when you tow full.
| Weight budget | Figure | What it means |
|---|---|---|
| Cargo capacity as published (CCC) | 3,155 lb | Everything you add: gear, water, propane, batteries, food, people’s belongings. |
| Fresh tank filled (75 gal × 8.34 lb) | −626 lb | Water is the heaviest thing most owners add, and it is added first. |
| Cargo budget left with a full fresh tank | 2,529 lb | 20% of this plan’s capacity is spent before a single bag is loaded. |
The published dry pin weight of 2,425 pounds is 16% of this floorplan’s 14,844-pound dry weight. Fifth-wheel pin weight rides in the bed of the truck, so it comes off payload rather than off tow rating — and it rises with the trailer as you load it, not in proportion to what you put over the axles.
Nothing above changes the ceiling. Loaded to its 17,999-pound GVWR the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL is towing 3,155 pounds more than its 14,844-pound dry figure, and that is the number your vehicle has to be rated for — not the brochure weight.
Tank balance is generous here: 75 gallons of fresh against 78 grey and 39 black, so waste capacity keeps pace with supply and the fresh tank is the constraint that ends a dry stay.
07 Where this floorplan sits
Ranked by GVWR, the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL sits 31 of 33 in the Puma line: 17,999 pounds against a line that runs from 8,553 to 18,575 pounds. That position is the useful thing to know, because the plans immediately either side of it are the real alternatives.
Either side of it in the same line: Puma Mesa 379MBL is 1,214 pounds lighter at 16,785 lb GVWR; and Puma Grand Mesa 395FKL is 1 pounds heavier at 18,000 lb GVWR.
| Comparable fifth wheels | GVWR (lb) | Dry (lb) | Sleeps | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Puma Grand Mesa 393RL | 17,999 | 14,844 | — | 42 ft 4 in |
| Cedar Creek 381MUD | 18,000 | 15,429 | 8 | 43 ft 5 in |
| Influence 3003RL | 18,000 | 12,500 | 4 | 34 ft 11 in |
| Montana 3100RL | 18,000 | 14,030 | 4 | 35 ft 11 in |
| Paradigm 375RD | 18,000 | 14,771 | 5 | 41 ft 9 in |
| Bighorn 38RE | 17,995 | 15,275 | 4 | 42 ft 6 in |
| North Point 382FLRB | 17,995 | 15,470 | 8 | 43 ft 10 in |
Against the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL: the Cedar Creek 381MUD is 1 lb heavier and 1 ft longer; the Influence 3003RL is 1 lb heavier and 7 ft shorter; the Montana 3100RL is 1 lb heavier and 6 ft shorter. Those are differences in the published numbers only — what they cost, how they are built and how they live are separate questions each of those pages answers on its own terms.
Those are the nearest fifth wheels from other lines by weight — one per line, picked by proximity on that figure and nothing else. They are listed so the same tow vehicle can be checked against real alternatives, not because they are equivalent inside; layout, build and price diverge sharply across that group.
For scale, the Puma floorplans profiled here run 6,173 to 15,114 pounds dry and 30 to 43 feet of exterior length across 33 plans. Where a floorplan falls in that spread usually says more about which vehicle can tow it, and which site it fits, than the layout name does.
Every profiled floorplan in this line, with the full weight table, is on the Puma line hub.
08 Common questions about the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL
How much does the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL weigh?
It leaves the factory at 14,844 pounds dry, and its manufacturer-set loaded ceiling (GVWR) is 17,999 pounds. Real towing weight lands between the two and depends entirely on what you load. Use the GVWR when matching a tow vehicle; the dry figure is only useful for comparing floorplans against each other.
How much can the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL carry?
Cargo carrying capacity is 3,155 pounds. That is the whole budget: water, propane, batteries, gear and everything you bring. Filling the 75-gallon fresh tank uses about 626 pounds of that.
What is the pin weight of the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL?
The published dry pin weight is 2,425 pounds. It is measured empty; loaded, it runs higher, and it comes out of your tow vehicle’s payload rather than its tow rating.
What size tow vehicle does the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL need?
Your vehicle needs a tow rating of at least 17,999 pounds — this floorplan’s GVWR — and enough payload left over for the hitch load, passengers and anything in the bed. This site does not publish tow ratings for specific vehicles, because one truck model varies by thousands of pounds across engine, axle ratio, cab and package. The figure that governs is the payload sticker on your own door jamb.
What are the tank capacities on the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL?
Fresh 75 gallons, grey 78 gallons, black 39 gallons. Tank sizes set how long the floorplan can sit away from hookups, and the smallest of the three is what ends the stay.
How long is the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL?
Exterior length is 42' 4". Measure against your site length and your storage before committing — the exterior figure is the one that has to fit, and it includes the tongue or pin box.
Every figure in these answers is read from this page’s verified specification table. Where the manufacturer publishes nothing, the question is not answered rather than estimated.
09 What this page publishes, and what it does not
This catalog tracks 18 specification fields per floorplan. Named sources publish 11 of them for the Puma Grand Mesa 393RL. The rest are not shown, because the alternative is reading a figure across from a sibling floorplan or from what the segment usually does — and a number nobody published is worth less than an admitted gap.
Not published for this floorplan: interior height, sleeps, slide count, axle count, tire specification, refrigerator, air conditioning. If you find one of these in a manufacturer document for this plan, it belongs on this page.
The completeness figure at the foot of this page (82%) measures the same thing on the full field set: it is a measurement of how much this floorplan’s manufacturer publishes, not of how much research went into the page.
Values on this page carrying an asterisk were derived by arithmetic from published figures, or come from a single source, rather than being printed directly by the manufacturer. The flag travels with the number into the downloadable spec sheet.
How every figure here was sourced and checked is set out on the methodology page.
11 NHTSA safety record
This floorplan belongs to the Puma line, and NHTSA holds 21 recall campaigns and 39 owner complaints against that line. They are separate records and are not added together — a recall is a manufacturer-confirmed defect with a remedy; a complaint is one owner’s account, which NHTSA does not verify.
What to look at on a used one. Across the 39 complaints filed on this line the most-reported components are tires (28%), structure (21%) and equipment (15%). That is where owners of this family have had trouble, so it is where an inspection is worth the time.
Recall coverage is not complete — our harvest of NHTSA’s recall API ran 1,556 queries, of which 0 failed and 242 returned an explicit zero. A line can still be under-reported where NHTSA files a roster under a parent name, or where a match rests on the wording of the recall rather than its model field. Complaints come from the complete bulk file but are unverified and self-selected: a high count tracks how many units a line sold at least as much as how well it was built. Check a specific VIN at NHTSA before you buy. Full tables are on the Puma line page.