01 What makes it unique
The Nightfall 380N leaves Forest River's factory at 12,579 lbs dry, with a published GVWR of 17,879 lbs and 5,300 lbs of cargo capacity between the two. Cargo capacity is 30% of the loaded rating, and Forest River's own definition is worth reading before you plan against it: cargo capacity is what remains for fresh water, gear, food, batteries and every dealer-installed accessory. Fresh water alone is 8.3 lb per gallon, so filling this trailer's 150-gallon fresh tank spends 1,245 lbs of that 5,300 lbs before anything else is loaded.
Pin weight is 2,990 lbs, which is 24% of the dry weight. That figure lands on the truck's rear axle and comes straight off its payload rating - not its towing rating, which is the number most often quoted and the wrong one for this decision. Pin weight rises as the trailer is loaded, and a fifth wheel loaded toward its cargo capacity will put substantially more than 2,990 lbs over the bed. Read the payload figure on your own door sticker rather than a brochure maximum for the model.
Off hookups: 154 gallons of grey and black capacity against 150 gallons of fresh water, so fresh water runs out first (tank sizes by length).
Against the rest of the Nightfall fifth-wheel roster this is the 3rd of 6 fifth wheels by dry weight, in a line that runs from 9,459 lbs to 15,679 lbs. It sits in the middle of the line by weight.
Plan the tow on loaded weight, not the 12,579 lbs dry figure: half the published cargo capacity brings this plan to about 15,229 lbs, and the published GVWR of 17,879 lbs is the limit (how to read trailer weights).
Forest River’s line listing and this floorplan’s own factory page agree on all 4 shared figures. Dry weight plus cargo capacity equals the published GVWR exactly. A missing row means Forest River does not publish that figure (how figures are verified).
Forest River publishes no floorplan description for this plan in the channel this page is built from - only the numeric specification block. Rather than describe a layout from the floorplan code, which would be a guess dressed as a fact, this page carries what the factory publishes and says where it stops. 380N is a Nightfall designation and this site does not decode it into a layout claim.
How the 380N differs from the other five Nightfall fifth wheels. Most distinctive first. How these ranks are worked out.
- Cargo capacity as a share of GVWR, 29.6%: second-largest of six, between the 350N (26.6%) and the 270N (35.9%).
- Pin weight as a share of dry weight, 23.8%: second-largest of six, between the 343NHD (23.3%) and the 397NHD (24%).
- Dry weight, 12,579 lb: third-lightest of six, between the 350N (12,319 lb) and the 343NHD (13,969 lb).
- GVWR, 17,879 lb: third-highest of six, between the 343NHD (17,250 lb) and the 397NHD and 404NHD (21,000 lb).
- Pin weight, 2,990 lb: third-lightest of six, between the 350N (2,790 lb) and the 404NHD (3,190 lb).
- Length, 43 ft 7 in: third-longest of six, between the 350N (40 ft 6 in) and the 397NHD (45 ft).
- Grey tank, 114 gal: shared with the 350N; of six, one smaller and three larger, nearest the 270N (97 gal) and the 343NHD, 397NHD and 404NHD (120 gal).
- Black tank, 40 gal: smallest of six, level with the 270N and 350N; next are the 343NHD, 397NHD and 404NHD (80 gal).
- Cargo capacity, 5,300 lb: shared with the 270N; of six, two smaller and two larger, nearest the 350N (4,471 lb) and the 404NHD (5,321 lb).
Next to the 350N, the nearest lighter floorplan by dry weight, the 380N is 260 lb heavier by dry weight, has a GVWR 1,089 lb higher, has 829 lb more cargo capacity, has a pin weight 200 lb heavier and is 3 ft 1 in longer; the two publish the same fresh tank, grey tank and black tank.
Next to the 343NHD, the nearest heavier floorplan by dry weight, the 380N is 1,390 lb lighter by dry weight, has a GVWR 629 lb higher, has 2,019 lb more cargo capacity, has a pin weight 260 lb lighter, is 3 ft 2 in longer, has a grey tank 6 gal smaller and has a black tank 40 gal smaller; the two publish the same fresh tank.
02 Full specifications
Dimensions
- Exterior length
- 43' 7"
- Exterior height
- Not published by Forest River
- Exterior width
- 102"
Weights
- Dry / unit base weight (UVW)
- 12,579 lbs
- GVWR (max loaded)
- 17,879 lbs
- Net cargo / payload (CCC)
- 5,300 lbs
- Hitch / pin weight
- 2,990 lbs
Capacities
- Fresh water
- 150 gal
- Grey water
- 114 gal
- Black water
- 40 gal
Running gear
- Hitch type
- Fifth wheel (pin box)
- Axles
- Not published by Forest River
- Tires
- Not published by Forest River
Sleeping & layout
- Sleeps
- Not published by Forest River
- Awnings
- 21'
How these published figures sit against the rest of the catalogue: fifth wheel pin weight and payload; fresh, grey and black tank sizes; camper trailer size chart.
Drawn to scale
Weight budget
Holding tanks
Axles, wheels and nose shape are schematic; not a floorplan. Data: dataset.
Towing it
Check your vehicle. Enter the ratings from your owner’s manual and the door-pillar placard.
Compares your figures with this page’s published GVWR (17,879 lb) and the upper loaded pin estimate (4,470 lb, a rule of thumb). Your vehicle’s placard and the trailer’s own weight label govern.
Loaded range: 15–25% of GVWR on the pin, a rule of thumb, not a measurement of this unit. No truck ratings or hitch classes (why; NHTSA, DOT HS 809 433). The range starts at the published figure, because loaded is never lighter than that.
03 The Nightfall floorplan family
Nightfall is published as one roster that spans two different towing propositions, and the split is the first thing to understand about it. Forest River files fourteen floorplans under the name in three groupings - travel-trailer toy haulers, fifth-wheel toy haulers and HD fifth-wheel toy haulers - plus four more sold dealer-stock only. The bumper-pull plans run 6,758 to 9,383 lb dry with 1,175 to 1,500 lb on the tongue. The fifth wheels run 9,459 to 15,679 lb dry with 2,165 to 3,765 lb on the pin. Those are not two ends of one range; they are two trailer types sharing a badge, and the grouping a plan belongs to says more about its weight than its floorplan number does. Both are in the table below.
| Floorplan | Nominal | Dry weight (lb) | GVWR (lb) | Notable |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20N - DSO | 26' 5" | 6,368 | 11,315 | Dealer stock only |
| 22N | 28' 6" | 6,758 | 11,375 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 25N - DSO | 29' 0" | 6,793 | 11,370 | Dealer stock only |
| 21N - DSO | 27' 3" | 7,013 | 11,260 | Dealer stock only |
| 27N - DSO | 32' 8" | 7,163 | 11,455 | Dealer stock only |
| 24N | 30' 0" | 7,328 | 11,400 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 28N | 34' 2" | 8,393 | 13,500 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 29N | 36' 8" | 9,383 | 13,495 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 270N | 32' 3" | 9,459 | 14,759 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers · published specifications only |
| 350N | 40' 6" | 12,319 | 16,790 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 380N | 43' 7" | 12,579 | 17,879 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 343NHD | 40' 5" | 13,969 | 17,250 | HD Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 397NHD | 45' 0" | 15,674 | 21,000 | HD Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 404NHD | 45' 1" | 15,679 | 21,000 | HD Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
Nightfall is Forest River's blacked-out toy hauler line, published across fourteen floorplans for 2026. Forest River publishes dry weight, GVWR, cargo capacity, hitch weight, all three exterior dimensions and all three tank capacities for the roster. Every one of the fourteen ties out exactly - dry weight plus cargo capacity equals the published GVWR on all of them, with GVWR running 11,260 to 21,000 lb and cargo capacity 3,281 to 5,326 lb. Four plans are marked dealer-stock only and carry no published body type at all, so they are catalogued with their weights and are not profiled: Forest River files them under a stock status rather than a grouping, and this site will not infer a hitch type for a trailer from its floorplan number. Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are not published in this channel, and neither is garage length.
04 Notes on this floorplan
What Forest River does not publish for this line
Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are absent from Forest River's specification channel for Nightfall, so they are absent here. They are not estimated from the segment, not carried over from a sibling floorplan, and not taken from a dealer listing quoting itself. A tire size in particular is a safety-relevant number that differs between two codes a digit apart, and this site does not guess one.
Weigh it before you tow it
Forest River calls its unloaded weight an estimated average for a standard build, and options and dealer add-ons change it, so weigh your own trailer loaded the way you travel (how figures are verified).
05 How it compares
12,319 lbs dry against this plan's 12,579 lbs, a difference of 260 lbs.
13,969 lbs dry, 1,390 lbs more than this plan, and 3,281 lbs of cargo capacity against this one's 5,300 lbs.
5,326 lbs of cargo capacity, the highest of the 6 Nightfall fifth wheels profiled here. If payload rather than length is the binding constraint, that is the plan to compare against.
06 Loading it for a trip
A full 150-gallon fresh tank is about 1,245 lb of water (water counts as cargo: 49 CFR 571.120 S10.4.2), 23% of the 380N’s 5,300 lb cargo capacity, leaving 4,055 lb. Across 6 Nightfall fifth-wheel floorplans the water share runs 23% to 38%, and 3 give up more than this one. Nearest on that share: Nightfall 404NHD at 23% and Nightfall 270N at 23%. Your own unit’s figure is on the label inside its entry door (49 CFR 571.120 S10.4.3).
07 Where this floorplan sits
Closest sibling: the Nightfall 350N, nearest on the published figures. It differs on 5 of the 8 fields both publish (this plan first): length 43 ft 7 in vs 40 ft 6 in; dry weight 12,579 lb vs 12,319 lb; GVWR 17,879 lb vs 16,790 lb; cargo capacity 5,300 lb vs 4,471 lb; hitch weight 2,990 lb vs 2,790 lb. They match on fresh tank, grey tank and black tank.
| Nightfall fifth-wheel plans | This plan | Position, low to high | Range |
|---|---|---|---|
| GVWR (lb) | 17,879 | 4 of 6 | 14,759–21,000 |
| Dry weight (lb) | 12,579 | 3 of 6 | 9,459–15,679 |
| Cargo capacity (lb) | 5,300 | 3–4 of 6 | 3,281–5,326 |
| Hitch weight (lb) | 2,990 | 3 of 6 | 2,165–3,765 |
| Length | 43 ft 7 in | 4 of 6 | 32 ft 3 in–45 ft 1 in |
| Grey tank (gal) | 114 | 2–3 of 6 | 97–120 |
| Black tank (gal) | 40 | 1–3 of 6 | 40–80 |
Either side of it by GVWR: Nightfall 343NHD is 629 lb lighter (17,250 lb GVWR); Nightfall 397NHD is 3,121 lb heavier (21,000 lb GVWR).
| Nearest Nightfall fifth-wheel siblings | Length | Sleeps | Dry (lb) | GVWR (lb) | CCC (lb) | Hitch (lb) | Fresh (gal) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nightfall 380N | 43 ft 7 in | — | 12,579 | 17,879 | 5,300 | 2,990 | 150 |
| Nightfall 350N | 40 ft 6 in | — | 12,319 | 16,790 | 4,471 | 2,790 | 150 |
| Nightfall 404NHD | 45 ft 1 in | — | 15,679 | 21,000 | 5,321 | 3,190 | 150 |
| Nightfall 270N | 32 ft 3 in | — | 9,459 | 14,759 | 5,300 | 2,165 | 150 |
| Nightfall 397NHD | 45 ft 0 in | — | 15,674 | 21,000 | 5,326 | 3,765 | 150 |
| Nightfall 343NHD | 40 ft 5 in | — | 13,969 | 17,250 | 3,281 | 3,250 | 150 |
All 10 Nightfall floorplans: Nightfall line hub.
| Other lines, nearest by GVWR | GVWR (lb) | Dry (lb) | Sleeps | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 380N | 17,879 | 12,579 | — | 43 ft 7 in |
| Cyclone 3511 | 17,800 | 13,875 | 6 | 41 ft 2 in |
| Bighorn 38RE | 17,995 | 15,275 | 4 | 42 ft 6 in |
| Durango Gold G359ROQ | 17,995 | 15,100 | 4 | 41 ft 8 in |
| North Point 381CKRE | 17,995 | 14,805 | 4 | — |
| Puma Grand Mesa 393RL | 17,999 | 14,844 | — | 42 ft 4 in |
| Cedar Creek 381MUD | 18,000 | 15,429 | 8 | 43 ft 5 in |
Against the 380N: the Cyclone 3511 is 79 lb lighter and 2 ft shorter; the Bighorn 38RE is 116 lb heavier and 1 ft shorter; the Durango Gold G359ROQ is 116 lb heavier and 2 ft shorter.
08 Common questions about the 380N
How much does the 380N weigh?
12,579 lb dry; 17,879 lb GVWR, the most it may weigh loaded.
How much can the 380N carry?
5,300 lb, 30% of its GVWR (median across 334 fifth wheels here: 18%). A full fresh tank uses 1,245 lb of it.
What is the pin weight of the 380N?
2,990 lb as published, 24% of the dry weight (median across 540 fifth wheels here: 19%).
What size tow vehicle does the 380N need?
A tow rating of at least 17,879 lb, plus payload for the loaded pin weight, passengers and cargo.
What are the tank capacities on the 380N?
Fresh 150, grey 114, black 40 gallons. Off hookups, fresh water runs out first.
How long is the 380N?
43' 7" overall, tongue or pin box included.
From the figures above.
09 What this page publishes, and what it does not
10 of the 18 fields this catalogue tracks are published for the 380N. Not published: exterior height, interior height, sleeps, slide count, axle count, tire specification, refrigerator, air conditioning.
Sourcing rules: methodology.
10 Manuals & documents
Sources: forestriverinc.com (linked below); the full source note is at the foot of the page.