01 What makes it unique
The EVO 165VW has 1,213 lbs of cargo capacity between 4,437 lbs dry and its 5,650 lbs GVWR, 21% of that rating; filling its 39-gallon fresh tank at 8.3 lb a gallon uses 324 lbs of it (how to read trailer weights).
Tongue weight is 550 lbs, 12% of the dry weight as published; it rises as the trailer is loaded and counts against the tow vehicle’s tongue-weight and payload limits (tongue weight by size).
Off hookups: 81 gallons of grey and black capacity against 39 gallons of fresh water, so fresh water runs out first (tank sizes by length).
Against the rest of the EVO roster this is the 7th of 18 floorplans by dry weight, in a line that runs from 2,504 lbs to 7,433 lbs. It sits in the middle of the line by weight.
Plan the tow on loaded weight, not the 4,437 lbs dry figure: half the published cargo capacity brings this plan to about 5,043 lbs, and the published GVWR of 5,650 lbs is the limit (how to read trailer weights).
Forest River’s line listing and this floorplan’s own factory page agree on all 4 shared figures. Dry weight plus cargo capacity equals the published GVWR exactly. A missing row means Forest River does not publish that figure (how figures are verified).
Forest River publishes no floorplan description for this plan in the channel this page is built from - only the numeric specification block. Rather than describe a layout from the floorplan code, which would be a guess dressed as a fact, this page carries what the factory publishes and says where it stops. 165VW is a EVO designation and this site does not decode it into a layout claim.
How the 165VW differs from the other seventeen EVO floorplans. Most distinctive first. How these ranks are worked out.
- Cargo capacity, 1,213 lb: third-smallest of eighteen, between the 164FBLE (877 lb) and the 163RD (1,323 lb).
- Cargo capacity as a share of GVWR, 21.5%: fourth-smallest of eighteen, between the 25ICE (19.8%) and the 2750QBX (22.2%).
- GVWR, 5,650 lb: sixth-lowest of eighteen, between the 163RD (5,520 lb) and the 178BHS (5,670 lb).
- Dry weight, 4,437 lb: seventh-lightest of eighteen, between the 163RD (4,197 lb) and the 233RBLE (4,714 lb).
- Tongue weight, 550 lb: seventh-lightest of eighteen, between the 233RBLE (520 lb) and the 178BHS (570 lb).
- Black tank, 27 gal: smallest of eighteen, level with the 163RD, 178BHS and 179DB; next are the 135ICE, 164FBLE and six others (30 gal).
- Tongue weight as a share of dry weight, 12.4%: ninth-largest of eighteen, between the 164FBLE (12.2%) and the 26ICE (12.5%).
- Length, 23 ft 2 in: shared with the 163RD; of eighteen, five shorter and eleven longer, nearest the 178BHS (22 ft 11 in) and the 233RBLE (28 ft 3 in).
- Exterior height, 10 ft 9 in: shared with the 163RD, 2480VBX and 2985VBX; of eighteen, eleven lower and three taller, nearest the 178BHS and 2405BHX (10 ft 8 in) and the 2920VB (11 ft).
- Fresh tank, 39 gal: smallest of eighteen, level with the 163RD, 164FBLE and four others; next are the 25ICE, 260ICE and 26ICE (40 gal).
- Grey tank, 54 gal: shared with the 163RD; of eighteen, eight smaller and eight larger, nearest the 233RBLE (43 gal) and the 25ICE, 260ICE and two others (60 gal).
Next to the 163RD, the nearest lighter floorplan by dry weight, the 165VW is 240 lb heavier by dry weight, has a GVWR 130 lb higher, has 110 lb less cargo capacity and has a tongue weight 130 lb heavier; the two publish the same length, exterior height, fresh tank, grey tank and black tank.
Next to the 233RBLE, the nearest heavier floorplan by dry weight, the 165VW is 277 lb lighter by dry weight, has a GVWR 1,870 lb lower, has 1,593 lb less cargo capacity, has a tongue weight 30 lb heavier, is 5 ft 1 in shorter, stands 3 in taller, has a fresh tank 15 gal smaller, has a grey tank 11 gal larger and has a black tank 16 gal smaller.
02 Full specifications
Dimensions
- Exterior length
- 23' 2"
- Exterior height
- 10' 9"
- Exterior width
- 90"
Weights
- Dry / unit base weight (UVW)
- 4,437 lbs
- GVWR (max loaded)
- 5,650 lbs
- Net cargo / payload (CCC)
- 1,213 lbs
- Hitch / tongue weight
- 550 lbs
Capacities
- Fresh water
- 39 gal
- Grey water
- 54 gal
- Black water
- 27 gal
Running gear
- Hitch type
- Bumper pull
- Axles
- Not published by Forest River
- Tires
- Not published by Forest River
Sleeping & layout
- Sleeps
- Not published by Forest River
- Awnings
- 15'
How these published figures sit against the rest of the catalogue: travel trailer tongue weight by size; fresh, grey and black tank sizes; camper trailer size chart.
Drawn to scale
Weight budget
Size, with end view
Holding tanks
Axles, wheels and nose shape are schematic; not a floorplan. Data: dataset.
Towing it
Check your vehicle. Enter the ratings from your owner’s manual and the door-pillar placard.
Compares your figures with this page’s published GVWR (5,650 lb) and the upper loaded tongue estimate (848 lb, a rule of thumb). Your vehicle’s placard and the trailer’s own weight label govern.
Loaded range: 10–15% of GVWR on the tongue, a rule of thumb, not a measurement of this unit. No truck ratings or hitch classes (why; NHTSA, DOT HS 809 433).
03 The EVO floorplan family
EVO is not one roster but four, and the factory publishes them under separate headings: EVO, EVO Lites, EVO Selects and EVO Singles. That matters for anyone shopping by weight, because the sub-family a plan belongs to predicts its weight class more reliably than its floorplan number does - the Singles run single-axle and light, the base EVO group runs tandem-axle and heavier, and a buyer comparing two EVO plans by number alone can be a full tow class out.
| Floorplan | Nominal | Dry weight (lb) | GVWR (lb) | Notable |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 250ZEN | — | — | — | Evo · published specifications only |
| 270ZEN | — | — | — | Evo · published specifications only |
| 300ICE | — | — | — | Evo · published specifications only |
| 31KQBTS | — | — | — | Evo · published specifications only |
| 135ICE | 16' 0" | 2,504 | 3,865 | Evo Selects |
| 164FBLE | 20' 2" | 2,988 | 3,865 | Evo Selects |
| 174DBLE | 21' 8" | 3,229 | 3,935 | Evo Selects |
| 179DB | 22' 5" | 3,515 | 4,892 | Evo Singles |
| 178BHS | 22' 11" | 4,182 | 5,670 | Evo Singles |
| 163RD | 23' 2" | 4,197 | 5,520 | Evo Singles |
| 165VW | 23' 2" | 4,437 | 5,650 | Evo Singles |
| 233RBLE | 28' 3" | 4,714 | 7,520 | Evo Selects |
| 266BHLE | 29' 11" | 4,853 | 7,550 | Catalogued only · published figures disagree |
| 2700BHX | 31' 9" | 5,854 | 7,682 | Evo Lites |
| 2405BHX | 28' 11" | 5,888 | 7,740 | Evo Lites |
| 2290ER | 28' 5" | 5,942 | 8,450 | Evo |
| 2750QBX | 33' 3" | 5,975 | 7,680 | Evo Lites |
| 2480VBX | 29' 11" | 6,159 | 8,575 | Evo Lites |
| 25ICE | 29' 10" | 6,178 | 7,700 | Evo Lites |
| 26ICE | 32' 9" | 6,288 | 7,785 | Evo Lites |
| 2985VBX | 33' 10" | 6,375 | 8,571 | Evo Lites |
| 260ICE | 29' 11" | 6,613 | 9,695 | Evo |
| 2920VB | 34' 11" | 7,433 | 9,615 | Evo |
EVO is published by Forest River as four sub-families - EVO, EVO Lites, EVO Selects and EVO Singles - across twenty-three floorplans for 2027. The sub-family each plan belongs to is shown in the table below because it is the strongest single predictor of weight class in this line. Forest River publishes dry weight, cargo capacity, tongue weight and the exterior dimensions for all twenty-three, and a GVWR for nineteen. Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are not published in this channel.
04 Notes on this floorplan
What Forest River does not publish for this line
Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are not in Forest River’s specification channel for EVO, so this page does not publish them and does not estimate them (how figures are verified).
Weigh it before you tow it
Forest River calls its unloaded weight an estimated average for a standard build, and options and dealer add-ons change it, so weigh your own trailer loaded the way you travel (how figures are verified).
05 How it compares
4,197 lbs dry against this plan's 4,437 lbs, a difference of 240 lbs.
4,714 lbs dry, 277 lbs more than this plan, and 2,806 lbs of cargo capacity against this one's 1,213 lbs.
3,082 lbs of cargo capacity, the highest of the 18 EVO floorplans profiled here. If payload rather than length is the binding constraint, that is the plan to compare against.
06 Loading it for a trip
A full 39-gallon fresh tank is about 324 lb of water (water counts as cargo: 49 CFR 571.110 S9.3.2), 27% of the 165VW’s 1,213 lb cargo capacity, leaving 889 lb. Across 18 EVO floorplans the water share runs 11% to 46%, and 2 give up more than this one. Nearest on that share: EVO 135ICE at 25% and EVO 164FBLE at 37%. Your own unit’s figure is on the label inside its entry door (49 CFR 571.110 S9.3.3).
07 Where this floorplan sits
Closest sibling: the EVO 163RD, nearest on the published figures. It differs on 4 of the 8 fields both publish (this plan first): dry weight 4,437 lb vs 4,197 lb; GVWR 5,650 lb vs 5,520 lb; cargo capacity 1,213 lb vs 1,323 lb; hitch weight 550 lb vs 420 lb. They match on length, fresh tank, grey tank and black tank.
| EVO plans | This plan | Position, low to high | Range |
|---|---|---|---|
| GVWR (lb) | 5,650 | 6 of 18 | 3,865–9,695 |
| Dry weight (lb) | 4,437 | 7 of 18 | 2,504–7,433 |
| Cargo capacity (lb) | 1,213 | 3 of 18 | 706–3,082 |
| Hitch weight (lb) | 550 | 7 of 18 | 365–895 |
| Length | 23 ft 2 in | 6–7 of 18 | 16 ft 0 in–34 ft 11 in |
| Fresh tank (gal) | 39 | 1–7 of 18 | 39–61 |
| Grey tank (gal) | 54 | 9–10 of 18 | 27–74 |
| Black tank (gal) | 27 | 1–4 of 18 | 27–43 |
Either side of it by GVWR: EVO 163RD is 130 lb lighter (5,520 lb GVWR); EVO 178BHS is 20 lb heavier (5,670 lb GVWR).
| Nearest EVO siblings | Length | Sleeps | Dry (lb) | GVWR (lb) | CCC (lb) | Hitch (lb) | Fresh (gal) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EVO 165VW | 23 ft 2 in | — | 4,437 | 5,650 | 1,213 | 550 | 39 |
| EVO 163RD | 23 ft 2 in | — | 4,197 | 5,520 | 1,323 | 420 | 39 |
| EVO 178BHS | 22 ft 11 in | — | 4,182 | 5,670 | 1,488 | 570 | 39 |
| EVO 179DB | 22 ft 5 in | — | 3,515 | 4,892 | 1,377 | 492 | 39 |
| EVO 25ICE | 29 ft 10 in | — | 6,178 | 7,700 | 1,522 | 700 | 40 |
| EVO 26ICE | 32 ft 9 in | — | 6,288 | 7,785 | 1,497 | 785 | 40 |
All 18 EVO floorplans: EVO line hub.
| Other lines, nearest by GVWR | GVWR (lb) | Dry (lb) | Sleeps | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 165VW | 5,650 | 4,437 | — | 23 ft 2 in |
| Delta BH181 | 5,650 | — | — | 22 ft 11 in |
| Surveyor Legend 19RBLE | 5,649 | 3,917 | — | 23 ft 7 in |
| Ozark 1680BSK | 5,655 | 4,269 | — | 23 ft 2 in |
| Aurora Light 18BHSX | 5,656 | 4,183 | — | 23 ft 1 in |
| Wildcat 181DBEDS | 5,630 | 4,217 | — | 22 ft 11 in |
| Campsite Reserve 17LS | 5,625 | 4,304 | — | 23 ft 10 in |
Against the 165VW: the Surveyor Legend 19RBLE is 1 lb lighter; the Ozark 1680BSK is 5 lb heavier.
08 Common questions about the 165VW
How much does the 165VW weigh?
4,437 lb dry; 5,650 lb GVWR, the most it may weigh loaded.
How much can the 165VW carry?
1,213 lb, 21% of its GVWR (median across 855 travel trailers here: 23%). A full fresh tank uses 324 lb of it.
What is the tongue weight of the 165VW?
550 lb as published, 12% of the dry weight (median across 1,205 travel trailers here: 12%).
What size tow vehicle does the 165VW need?
A tow rating of at least 5,650 lb, plus payload for the loaded tongue weight, passengers and cargo.
What are the tank capacities on the 165VW?
Fresh 39, grey 54, black 27 gallons. Off hookups, fresh water runs out first.
How long is the 165VW?
23' 2" overall, tongue or pin box included.
From the figures above.
09 What this page publishes, and what it does not
11 of the 18 fields this catalogue tracks are published for the 165VW. Not published: interior height, sleeps, slide count, axle count, tire specification, refrigerator, air conditioning.
Sourcing rules: methodology.
10 Manuals & documents
Sources: forestriverinc.com (linked below); the full source note is at the foot of the page.
11 NHTSA safety record
NHTSA holds 4 recall campaigns and 3 owner complaints (model years 2005 on) against the EVO line (a recall and a complaint are not the same thing).
Too few reports to show a pattern. 3 complaints have been filed on this line — not enough to say what fails most often. They cover suspension and structure.
Recall coverage here is not complete, and complaints are owners’ unverified reports (how this record is built). Check a specific VIN at NHTSA before you buy. Full tables are on the EVO line page.