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2026 Forest River Vengeance Rogue383G2

a 45-foot fifth wheel that leaves the factory at 13,409 lbs dry and is rated to carry 3,616 lbs of cargo.

Tow-Critical Data — as built, MY2026

13,409lb
Dry Weight
17,025lb
GVWR
3,025lb
Pin Weight
45ft
Length
3,616 lb cargo Fifth Wheel · Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers Built by · Forest River Model year · 2026

01 What makes it unique

The Vengeance Rogue 383G2 leaves Forest River's factory at 13,409 lbs dry, with a published GVWR of 17,025 lbs and 3,616 lbs of cargo capacity between the two. Cargo capacity is 21% of the loaded rating, and Forest River's own definition is worth reading before you plan against it: cargo capacity is what remains for fresh water, gear, food, batteries and every dealer-installed accessory. Fresh water alone is 8.3 lb per gallon, so filling this trailer's 160-gallon fresh tank spends 1,328 lbs of that 3,616 lbs before anything else is loaded.

Dry pin weight is 3,025 lbs, which is 23% of the dry weight. That figure lands on the truck's rear axle and comes straight off its payload rating - not its towing rating, which is the number most often quoted and the wrong one for this decision. Pin weight rises as the trailer is loaded, and a fifth wheel loaded toward its cargo capacity will put substantially more than 3,025 lbs over the bed. Read the payload figure on your own door sticker rather than a brochure maximum for the model.

Tank capacities are 160 gallons fresh, 80 grey and 100 black, 180 gallons of waste capacity against 160 gallons of supply. The ratio is what governs how long the trailer can sit off hookups: waste capacity exceeds fresh, so the fresh tank is the binding constraint and refilling extends the stay. Forest River publishes these three figures per floorplan, and they are the factory's numbers rather than a segment average.

Against the rest of the Vengeance Rogue roster this is the 11th of 14 floorplans by dry weight, in a line that runs from 5,498 lbs to 14,014 lbs. It sits in the heavier third of the line. Comparing floorplans inside one line is more reliable than comparing across brands, because every figure here comes from the same factory channel on the same day.

A useful way to read the pair of weights is to stop planning against the dry figure. Nobody tows a trailer at 13,409 lbs: that is the weight before water, batteries, propane, bedding, food, tools and anything the dealer bolted on. Load half the published cargo capacity, which is modest for a family trip, and this plan is already near 15,217 lbs on the road. Compare that number against the tow vehicle, not the dry weight, and leave margin on top of it - the published GVWR of 17,025 lbs is a limit rather than a target.

Every number above was captured twice from Forest River and checked against itself before it was published. The line roster block and the individual floorplan page are two separate factory renderings of the same trailer, and this plan's 4 shared figures agree exactly on both. Dry weight plus cargo capacity also equals the published GVWR exactly, which is the arithmetic check this site runs on every profiled floorplan. Where a figure is missing from this page it is because Forest River does not publish it in this channel, not because it was hard to find - and the row says so rather than being quietly dropped.

Forest River publishes no floorplan description for this plan in the channel this page is built from - only the numeric specification block. Rather than describe a layout from the floorplan code, which would be a guess dressed as a fact, this page carries what the factory publishes and says where it stops. 383G2 is a Vengeance Rogue designation and this site does not decode it into a layout claim.

02 Full specifications

Dimensions

Exterior length
45' 0"
Exterior height
13' 4"
Exterior width
102"

Weights

Dry / unit base weight (UVW)
13,409 lbs
GVWR (max loaded)
17,025 lbs
Net cargo / payload (CCC)
3,616 lbs
Dry pin weight
3,025 lbs

Capacities

Fresh water
160 gal
Grey water
80 gal
Black water
100 gal

Running gear

Hitch type
Fifth wheel (pin box)
Axles
Not published by Forest River
Tires
Not published by Forest River

Sleeping & layout

Sleeps
Not published by Forest River
Awnings
12' & 18'

Verified specs, drawn to scale

Original graphics built from this floorplan’s own verified figures.

Loaded weight budget

Loaded weight budget for the 383G2Horizontal bar. Dry weight 13,409 pounds, then cargo capacity 3,616 pounds, against a GVWR of 17,025 pounds. Dry pin weight 3,025 pounds on the same scale.GVWR 17,025 lbsDry 13,409 lbsCargo capacity 3,616 lbsDry pin weight 3,025 lbs — same scale
Drawn from this page’s published figures. The bar runs from empty to GVWR: the dark band is dry weight, the light band is everything you are allowed to add — water, propane, batteries and gear all come out of it.

Size, drawn to scale

Scale outline of the 383G2Scale outline of the 383G2. Overall length 45' 0", overall height 13' 4", overall width 8' 6".end view8' 6"45' 0" overall length13' 4"
Overall length and height are drawn true to scale from the published figures, and the end view uses the same scale. Axle count is as published; axle position, wheel size and the nose profile are schematic. This is a size drawing, not a floorplan, and not a claim about body shape.

Holding tanks

Holding tank capacities for the 383G2Holding tank capacities: fresh 160 gallons, grey 80 gallons, black 100 gallons.Fresh160 galGrey80 galBlack100 gal
Published tank capacities on one scale. A full fresh tank is about 1,334 lbs of water — roughly 37% of this plan’s 3,616 lb cargo capacity, before you load anything else.

These graphics are generated from the same verified record that builds the table above, and are published under this site’s own licence — nothing here is traced from, or derived from, a manufacturer drawing or photo. Where a figure is not published for this plan, the graphic that would need it is omitted rather than estimated. The full record is in the published dataset.

What it takes to tow this

Built from this floorplan’s verified weights. We publish the trailer side only.

Minimum tow rating your vehicle needs17,025 lb
Published dry pin weight3,025 lb
Loaded pin weight, typical range3,025–4,256 lb
Minimum in-bed fifth-wheel hitch capacity17,025 lb towed / 4,256 lb pin
The pin weight above is dry. It is the figure the manufacturer publishes for an empty trailer. Loaded — with water, propane, batteries and your gear — it runs higher, which is why the range row uses loaded weight. Sizing your truck off the dry number under-budgets your payload.
The arithmetic that actually binds. Open your driver’s door and read the payload figure on the yellow-and-white sticker — that number is specific to your truck as built. Subtract from it: loaded pin weight (use the range above), every passenger, everything in the bed and cab. What is left is your margin. Payload, not tow rating, is what most half-ton owners run out of first.

We do not publish tow ratings for specific trucks. A single model can vary by thousands of pounds depending on engine, axle ratio, cab, drivetrain and package — the only authoritative figure is the one on your own door jamb. Loaded pin percentages are industry convention for fifth wheels (15–25% of loaded weight), not a measurement of this unit. Hitch classes are not used here as a rating: SAE J684 covers trailers to 10,000 lb GVWR and does not define Class V, and capacity boundaries differ between manufacturers — read the rating stamped on your hitch. On this plan the convention band’s low end fell below the published dry figure, so the range starts at the published dry weight instead — loaded is never lighter than dry.

03 The Vengeance Rogue floorplan family

Vengeance Rogue is published as three rosters that span two different towing propositions, and the split is the first thing to understand about the line. The SUT and Armored Travel Trailer plans are bumper-pull toy haulers running 5,498 to 10,219 lb dry with tongue weights of 1,036 to 1,620 lb. The Armored fifth wheels start where those stop: 12,874 to 14,014 lb dry on pin weights of 2,990 to 3,385 lb, which is three-quarter-ton and one-ton territory with a properly rated in-bed hitch. Nothing on this hub mixes the two -- every floorplan page names its own hitch class and no pin figure appears in a tongue row. Forest River publishes a GVWR for all fourteen, and dry plus cargo equals it exactly on every one.

FloorplanNominalSleepsNotable
23SUT27' 2"5,4989,995Travel Trailer Toy Haulers
25SUT32' 3"7,07811,465Travel Trailer Toy Haulers
29SUT35' 7"7,73811,575Travel Trailer Toy Haulers
28SUT34' 6"8,09311,645Travel Trailer Toy Haulers
25L14132' 8"8,18912,900Travel Trailers
26L14034' 0"8,70413,465Travel Trailers
323SUT34' 10"9,61314,090Catalogued only · published figures disagree
32SUT - DSO39' 3"9,94613,598Catalogued only · published figures disagree
32L13239' 11"10,21913,620Travel Trailers
341GS1139' 11"12,87416,990Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers
383G245' 0"13,40917,025Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers
401544' 5"13,52917,025Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers
351G244' 2"13,56417,050Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers
391T14545' 3"14,01417,385Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers

Forest River publishes Vengeance Rogue across three roster groupings -- Vengeance Rogue SUT, Vengeance Rogue Armored fifth wheels and Vengeance Rogue Armored travel trailers -- and all three are catalogued here under one hub, which is how this site files a factory sub-roster of a line. Fourteen floorplans are published for 2026; twelve carry the complete field set and are profiled. One dealer-stock-only plan and one plan for which Forest River publishes no exterior height are catalogued rather than profiled. Forest River publishes dry weight, GVWR, cargo capacity, hitch or pin weight, exterior length and width and all three tank capacities for the roster. It publishes no sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size or MSRP in this channel, so those rows are absent rather than estimated.

04 What owners & reviewers report

What Forest River does not publish for this line

Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are absent from Forest River's specification channel for Vengeance Rogue, so they are absent here. They are not estimated from the segment, not carried over from a sibling floorplan, and not taken from a dealer listing quoting itself. A tire size in particular is a safety-relevant number that differs between two codes a digit apart, and this site does not guess one.

Weigh it before you tow it

Every figure on this page is a factory publication for a standard build. Forest River's own footnote on unloaded weight calls it an estimated average based on a standard build with optional equipment, and options, dealer-installed accessories and the previous owner's additions all move it. The only weight that governs your towing decision is the one under your own trailer on a scale, loaded the way you actually travel.

SOURCING — ownership notes to be expanded with cited threads from owner communities & forums per the data plan

05 How it compares

Lighter
Vengeance Rogue 341GS11

12,874 lbs dry against this plan's 13,409 lbs, a difference of 535 lbs. Same line, same factory channel, same model year - so the gap is a real one rather than a difference in how two brands measure.

Heavier
Vengeance Rogue 4015

13,529 lbs dry, 120 lbs more than this plan, and 3,496 lbs of cargo capacity against this one's 3,616 lbs. Stepping up a floorplan usually buys length before it buys payload.

Most cargo in the line
Vengeance Rogue 26L140

4,761 lbs of cargo capacity, the highest of the 12 Vengeance Rogue floorplans profiled here. If payload rather than length is the binding constraint, that is the plan to compare against.

06 Loading it for a trip

Fresh water is the single biggest line in this floorplan’s load plan. A full 160-gallon tank is about 37% of the 3,616-pound cargo capacity — enough that whether you tow with water aboard is a real decision on the 383G2 rather than a detail.

Weight budgetFigureWhat it means
Cargo capacity as published (CCC)3,616 lbEverything you add: gear, water, propane, batteries, food, people’s belongings.
Fresh tank filled (160 gal × 8.34 lb)−1,334 lbWater is the heaviest thing most owners add, and it is added first.
Cargo budget left with a full fresh tank2,282 lb37% of this plan’s capacity is spent before a single bag is loaded.

The published dry pin weight of 3,025 pounds is 23% of this floorplan’s 13,409-pound dry weight. Fifth-wheel pin weight rides in the bed of the truck, so it comes off payload rather than off tow rating — and it rises with the trailer as you load it, not in proportion to what you put over the axles.

Nothing above changes the ceiling. Loaded to its 17,025-pound GVWR the 383G2 is towing 3,616 pounds more than its 13,409-pound dry figure, and that is the number your vehicle has to be rated for — not the brochure weight.

Tank balance is generous here: 160 gallons of fresh against 80 grey and 100 black, so waste capacity keeps pace with supply and the fresh tank is the constraint that ends a dry stay.

07 Where this floorplan sits

Ranked by GVWR, the 383G2 sits 9 of 12 in the Vengeance Rogue line: 17,025 pounds against a line that runs from 9,995 to 17,385 pounds. That position is the useful thing to know, because the plans immediately either side of it are the real alternatives.

Either side of it in the same line: Vengeance Rogue 341GS11 is 35 pounds lighter at 16,990 lb GVWR; and Vengeance Rogue 4015 matches it exactly at 17,025 lb GVWR.

1 other Vengeance Rogue plan shares this floorplan’s 17,025 lb GVWR, so the ranking above separates plans that tow to the same ceiling. On a shared chassis the figure that actually differs between them is cargo capacity and where the weight sits, not the rating.

Comparable fifth wheelsGVWR (lb)Dry (lb)SleepsLength
383G217,02513,409—45 ft 0 in
North Point 340CKTS17,00013,880437 ft 10 in
Model Z 330016,99513,127636 ft 7 in
Pinnacle 38FLWS16,99514,2755—
Wolf Pack 350PACK1516,96012,263—45 ft 0 in
Seismic 392T16,90012,235—40 ft 11 in
Sandstorm 3217GX17,16013,124—38 ft 4 in

Against the 383G2: the North Point 340CKTS is 25 lb lighter and 7 ft shorter; the Model Z 3300 is 30 lb lighter and 8 ft shorter; the Pinnacle 38FLWS is 30 lb lighter. Those are differences in the published numbers only — what they cost, how they are built and how they live are separate questions each of those pages answers on its own terms.

Those are the nearest fifth wheels from other lines by weight — one per line, picked by proximity on that figure and nothing else. They are listed so the same tow vehicle can be checked against real alternatives, not because they are equivalent inside; layout, build and price diverge sharply across that group.

For scale, the Vengeance Rogue floorplans profiled here run 5,498 to 14,014 pounds dry and 27 to 45 feet of exterior length across 12 plans. Where a floorplan falls in that spread usually says more about which vehicle can tow it, and which site it fits, than the layout name does.

Every profiled floorplan in this line, with the full weight table, is on the Vengeance Rogue line hub.

08 Common questions about the 383G2

How much does the 383G2 weigh?

It leaves the factory at 13,409 pounds dry, and its manufacturer-set loaded ceiling (GVWR) is 17,025 pounds. Real towing weight lands between the two and depends entirely on what you load. Use the GVWR when matching a tow vehicle; the dry figure is only useful for comparing floorplans against each other.

How much can the 383G2 carry?

Cargo carrying capacity is 3,616 pounds. That is the whole budget: water, propane, batteries, gear and everything you bring. Filling the 160-gallon fresh tank uses about 1,334 pounds of that.

What is the pin weight of the 383G2?

The published dry pin weight is 3,025 pounds. It is measured empty; loaded, it runs higher, and it comes out of your tow vehicle’s payload rather than its tow rating.

What size tow vehicle does the 383G2 need?

Your vehicle needs a tow rating of at least 17,025 pounds — this floorplan’s GVWR — and enough payload left over for the hitch load, passengers and anything in the bed. This site does not publish tow ratings for specific vehicles, because one truck model varies by thousands of pounds across engine, axle ratio, cab and package. The figure that governs is the payload sticker on your own door jamb.

What are the tank capacities on the 383G2?

Fresh 160 gallons, grey 80 gallons, black 100 gallons. Tank sizes set how long the floorplan can sit away from hookups, and the smallest of the three is what ends the stay.

How long is the 383G2?

Exterior length is 45' 0". Measure against your site length and your storage before committing — the exterior figure is the one that has to fit, and it includes the tongue or pin box.

Every figure in these answers is read from this page’s verified specification table. Where the manufacturer publishes nothing, the question is not answered rather than estimated.

09 What this page publishes, and what it does not

This catalog tracks 18 specification fields per floorplan. Named sources publish 11 of them for the 383G2. The rest are not shown, because the alternative is reading a figure across from a sibling floorplan or from what the segment usually does — and a number nobody published is worth less than an admitted gap.

Not published for this floorplan: interior height, sleeps, slide count, axle count, tire specification, refrigerator, air conditioning. If you find one of these in a manufacturer document for this plan, it belongs on this page.

The completeness figure at the foot of this page (85%) measures the same thing on the full field set: it is a measurement of how much this floorplan’s manufacturer publishes, not of how much research went into the page.

How every figure here was sourced and checked is set out on the methodology page.