01 What makes it unique
The Vengeance Rogue 391T145 leaves Forest River's factory at 14,014 lbs dry, with a published GVWR of 17,385 lbs and 3,371 lbs of cargo capacity between the two. Cargo capacity is 19% of the loaded rating, and Forest River's own definition is worth reading before you plan against it: cargo capacity is what remains for fresh water, gear, food, batteries and every dealer-installed accessory. Fresh water alone is 8.3 lb per gallon, so filling this trailer's 160-gallon fresh tank spends 1,328 lbs of that 3,371 lbs before anything else is loaded.
Dry pin weight is 3,385 lbs, which is 24% of the dry weight. That figure lands on the truck's rear axle and comes straight off its payload rating - not its towing rating, which is the number most often quoted and the wrong one for this decision. Pin weight rises as the trailer is loaded, and a fifth wheel loaded toward its cargo capacity will put substantially more than 3,385 lbs over the bed. Read the payload figure on your own door sticker rather than a brochure maximum for the model.
Tank capacities are 160 gallons fresh, 100 grey and 80 black, 180 gallons of waste capacity against 160 gallons of supply. The ratio is what governs how long the trailer can sit off hookups: waste capacity exceeds fresh, so the fresh tank is the binding constraint and refilling extends the stay. Forest River publishes these three figures per floorplan, and they are the factory's numbers rather than a segment average.
Against the rest of the Vengeance Rogue roster this is the 14th of 14 floorplans by dry weight, in a line that runs from 5,498 lbs to 14,014 lbs. It is the heaviest plan in the line, so the tow vehicle should be settled before the floorplan is. Comparing floorplans inside one line is more reliable than comparing across brands, because every figure here comes from the same factory channel on the same day.
A useful way to read the pair of weights is to stop planning against the dry figure. Nobody tows a trailer at 14,014 lbs: that is the weight before water, batteries, propane, bedding, food, tools and anything the dealer bolted on. Load half the published cargo capacity, which is modest for a family trip, and this plan is already near 15,700 lbs on the road. Compare that number against the tow vehicle, not the dry weight, and leave margin on top of it - the published GVWR of 17,385 lbs is a limit rather than a target.
Every number above was captured twice from Forest River and checked against itself before it was published. The line roster block and the individual floorplan page are two separate factory renderings of the same trailer, and this plan's 4 shared figures agree exactly on both. Dry weight plus cargo capacity also equals the published GVWR exactly, which is the arithmetic check this site runs on every profiled floorplan. Where a figure is missing from this page it is because Forest River does not publish it in this channel, not because it was hard to find - and the row says so rather than being quietly dropped.
Forest River publishes no floorplan description for this plan in the channel this page is built from - only the numeric specification block. Rather than describe a layout from the floorplan code, which would be a guess dressed as a fact, this page carries what the factory publishes and says where it stops. 391T145 is a Vengeance Rogue designation and this site does not decode it into a layout claim.
02 Full specifications
Dimensions
- Exterior length
- 45' 3"
- Exterior height
- 13' 4"
- Exterior width
- 102"
Weights
- Dry / unit base weight (UVW)
- 14,014 lbs
- GVWR (max loaded)
- 17,385 lbs
- Net cargo / payload (CCC)
- 3,371 lbs
- Dry pin weight
- 3,385 lbs
Capacities
- Fresh water
- 160 gal
- Grey water
- 100 gal
- Black water
- 80 gal
Running gear
- Hitch type
- Fifth wheel (pin box)
- Axles
- Not published by Forest River
- Tires
- Not published by Forest River
Sleeping & layout
- Sleeps
- Not published by Forest River
- Awnings
- 13' & 13'
Verified specs, drawn to scale
Original graphics built from this floorplan’s own verified figures.
Loaded weight budget
Size, drawn to scale
Holding tanks
These graphics are generated from the same verified record that builds the table above, and are published under this site’s own licence — nothing here is traced from, or derived from, a manufacturer drawing or photo. Where a figure is not published for this plan, the graphic that would need it is omitted rather than estimated. The full record is in the published dataset.
What it takes to tow this
Built from this floorplan’s verified weights. We publish the trailer side only.
We do not publish tow ratings for specific trucks. A single model can vary by thousands of pounds depending on engine, axle ratio, cab, drivetrain and package — the only authoritative figure is the one on your own door jamb. Loaded pin percentages are industry convention for fifth wheels (15–25% of loaded weight), not a measurement of this unit. Hitch classes are not used here as a rating: SAE J684 covers trailers to 10,000 lb GVWR and does not define Class V, and capacity boundaries differ between manufacturers — read the rating stamped on your hitch. On this plan the convention band’s low end fell below the published dry figure, so the range starts at the published dry weight instead — loaded is never lighter than dry.
03 The Vengeance Rogue floorplan family
Vengeance Rogue is published as three rosters that span two different towing propositions, and the split is the first thing to understand about the line. The SUT and Armored Travel Trailer plans are bumper-pull toy haulers running 5,498 to 10,219 lb dry with tongue weights of 1,036 to 1,620 lb. The Armored fifth wheels start where those stop: 12,874 to 14,014 lb dry on pin weights of 2,990 to 3,385 lb, which is three-quarter-ton and one-ton territory with a properly rated in-bed hitch. Nothing on this hub mixes the two -- every floorplan page names its own hitch class and no pin figure appears in a tongue row. Forest River publishes a GVWR for all fourteen, and dry plus cargo equals it exactly on every one.
| Floorplan | Nominal | Sleeps | Notable | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23SUT | 27' 2" | 5,498 | 9,995 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 25SUT | 32' 3" | 7,078 | 11,465 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 29SUT | 35' 7" | 7,738 | 11,575 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 28SUT | 34' 6" | 8,093 | 11,645 | Travel Trailer Toy Haulers |
| 25L141 | 32' 8" | 8,189 | 12,900 | Travel Trailers |
| 26L140 | 34' 0" | 8,704 | 13,465 | Travel Trailers |
| 323SUT | 34' 10" | 9,613 | 14,090 | Catalogued only · published figures disagree |
| 32SUT - DSO | 39' 3" | 9,946 | 13,598 | Catalogued only · published figures disagree |
| 32L132 | 39' 11" | 10,219 | 13,620 | Travel Trailers |
| 341GS11 | 39' 11" | 12,874 | 16,990 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 383G2 | 45' 0" | 13,409 | 17,025 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 4015 | 44' 5" | 13,529 | 17,025 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 351G2 | 44' 2" | 13,564 | 17,050 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
| 391T145 | 45' 3" | 14,014 | 17,385 | Fifth Wheel Toy Haulers |
Forest River publishes Vengeance Rogue across three roster groupings -- Vengeance Rogue SUT, Vengeance Rogue Armored fifth wheels and Vengeance Rogue Armored travel trailers -- and all three are catalogued here under one hub, which is how this site files a factory sub-roster of a line. Fourteen floorplans are published for 2026; twelve carry the complete field set and are profiled. One dealer-stock-only plan and one plan for which Forest River publishes no exterior height are catalogued rather than profiled. Forest River publishes dry weight, GVWR, cargo capacity, hitch or pin weight, exterior length and width and all three tank capacities for the roster. It publishes no sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size or MSRP in this channel, so those rows are absent rather than estimated.
04 What owners & reviewers report
What Forest River does not publish for this line
Sleeping capacity, axle count, tire size and MSRP are absent from Forest River's specification channel for Vengeance Rogue, so they are absent here. They are not estimated from the segment, not carried over from a sibling floorplan, and not taken from a dealer listing quoting itself. A tire size in particular is a safety-relevant number that differs between two codes a digit apart, and this site does not guess one.
Weigh it before you tow it
Every figure on this page is a factory publication for a standard build. Forest River's own footnote on unloaded weight calls it an estimated average based on a standard build with optional equipment, and options, dealer-installed accessories and the previous owner's additions all move it. The only weight that governs your towing decision is the one under your own trailer on a scale, loaded the way you actually travel.
05 How it compares
13,564 lbs dry against this plan's 14,014 lbs, a difference of 450 lbs. Same line, same factory channel, same model year - so the gap is a real one rather than a difference in how two brands measure.
4,761 lbs of cargo capacity, the highest of the 12 Vengeance Rogue floorplans profiled here. If payload rather than length is the binding constraint, that is the plan to compare against.
06 Loading it for a trip
Fresh water is the single biggest line in this floorplan’s load plan. A full 160-gallon tank is about 40% of the 3,371-pound cargo capacity — enough that whether you tow with water aboard is a real decision on the 391T145 rather than a detail.
| Weight budget | Figure | What it means |
|---|---|---|
| Cargo capacity as published (CCC) | 3,371 lb | Everything you add: gear, water, propane, batteries, food, people’s belongings. |
| Fresh tank filled (160 gal × 8.34 lb) | −1,334 lb | Water is the heaviest thing most owners add, and it is added first. |
| Cargo budget left with a full fresh tank | 2,037 lb | 40% of this plan’s capacity is spent before a single bag is loaded. |
The published dry pin weight of 3,385 pounds is 24% of this floorplan’s 14,014-pound dry weight. Fifth-wheel pin weight rides in the bed of the truck, so it comes off payload rather than off tow rating — and it rises with the trailer as you load it, not in proportion to what you put over the axles.
Nothing above changes the ceiling. Loaded to its 17,385-pound GVWR the 391T145 is towing 3,371 pounds more than its 14,014-pound dry figure, and that is the number your vehicle has to be rated for — not the brochure weight.
Tank balance is generous here: 160 gallons of fresh against 100 grey and 80 black, so waste capacity keeps pace with supply and the fresh tank is the constraint that ends a dry stay.
07 Where this floorplan sits
Of the 12 Vengeance Rogue floorplans profiled here, the 391T145 carries the highest GVWR at 17,385 pounds. It is the top of the line by weight, which makes tow-vehicle capability the first thing to settle rather than the last.
Either side of it in the same line: Vengeance Rogue 351G2 is 335 pounds lighter at 17,050 lb GVWR.
| Comparable fifth wheels | GVWR (lb) | Dry (lb) | Sleeps | Length |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 391T145 | 17,385 | 14,014 | — | 45 ft 3 in |
| Pinnacle 36KPTS | 17,350 | 14,270 | 4 | 41 ft 1 in |
| Wolf Pack 411STAY | 17,310 | 14,884 | — | 45 ft 0 in |
| Bighorn 36RK | 17,300 | 14,465 | 4 | 40 ft 5 in |
| North Point 365RKTS | 17,300 | 14,505 | 3 | 40 ft 4 in |
| Model Z 3400 | 17,495 | 13,898 | 7 | 38 ft 11 in |
| Seismic 359 | 17,500 | 13,490 | 6 | — |
Against the 391T145: the Pinnacle 36KPTS is 35 lb lighter and 4 ft shorter; the Wolf Pack 411STAY is 75 lb lighter; the Bighorn 36RK is 85 lb lighter and 5 ft shorter. Those are differences in the published numbers only — what they cost, how they are built and how they live are separate questions each of those pages answers on its own terms.
Those are the nearest fifth wheels from other lines by weight — one per line, picked by proximity on that figure and nothing else. They are listed so the same tow vehicle can be checked against real alternatives, not because they are equivalent inside; layout, build and price diverge sharply across that group.
For scale, the Vengeance Rogue floorplans profiled here run 5,498 to 14,014 pounds dry and 27 to 45 feet of exterior length across 12 plans. Where a floorplan falls in that spread usually says more about which vehicle can tow it, and which site it fits, than the layout name does.
Every profiled floorplan in this line, with the full weight table, is on the Vengeance Rogue line hub.
08 Common questions about the 391T145
How much does the 391T145 weigh?
It leaves the factory at 14,014 pounds dry, and its manufacturer-set loaded ceiling (GVWR) is 17,385 pounds. Real towing weight lands between the two and depends entirely on what you load. Use the GVWR when matching a tow vehicle; the dry figure is only useful for comparing floorplans against each other.
How much can the 391T145 carry?
Cargo carrying capacity is 3,371 pounds. That is the whole budget: water, propane, batteries, gear and everything you bring. Filling the 160-gallon fresh tank uses about 1,334 pounds of that.
What is the pin weight of the 391T145?
The published dry pin weight is 3,385 pounds. It is measured empty; loaded, it runs higher, and it comes out of your tow vehicle’s payload rather than its tow rating.
What size tow vehicle does the 391T145 need?
Your vehicle needs a tow rating of at least 17,385 pounds — this floorplan’s GVWR — and enough payload left over for the hitch load, passengers and anything in the bed. This site does not publish tow ratings for specific vehicles, because one truck model varies by thousands of pounds across engine, axle ratio, cab and package. The figure that governs is the payload sticker on your own door jamb.
What are the tank capacities on the 391T145?
Fresh 160 gallons, grey 100 gallons, black 80 gallons. Tank sizes set how long the floorplan can sit away from hookups, and the smallest of the three is what ends the stay.
How long is the 391T145?
Exterior length is 45' 3". Measure against your site length and your storage before committing — the exterior figure is the one that has to fit, and it includes the tongue or pin box.
Every figure in these answers is read from this page’s verified specification table. Where the manufacturer publishes nothing, the question is not answered rather than estimated.
09 What this page publishes, and what it does not
This catalog tracks 18 specification fields per floorplan. Named sources publish 11 of them for the 391T145. The rest are not shown, because the alternative is reading a figure across from a sibling floorplan or from what the segment usually does — and a number nobody published is worth less than an admitted gap.
Not published for this floorplan: interior height, sleeps, slide count, axle count, tire specification, refrigerator, air conditioning. If you find one of these in a manufacturer document for this plan, it belongs on this page.
The completeness figure at the foot of this page (85%) measures the same thing on the full field set: it is a measurement of how much this floorplan’s manufacturer publishes, not of how much research went into the page.
How every figure here was sourced and checked is set out on the methodology page.